My spouse and daughters left behind a legacy of affection, John Hunt tells BBC

BBC racing commentator John Hunt, whose spouse and two of his daughters had been murdered final July, describes in an emotional first interview the legacy of affection they left behind.

It was this, John and his daughter Amy inform the BBC, that had helped maintain them by their trauma and grief.

Carol, Louise and Hannah remained such a continuing presence of their lives that he nonetheless talks to them each day, virtually a yr on from their deaths, John says.

“From the second I get up, I say good morning to every of them,” he says.

“Typically I say out loud to Hannah and Louise, ‘women, sorry I am unable to be with you, I am along with your mum for the time being’. As I shut my eyes at evening, I chat to them as properly. They’re very near me on a regular basis.”

John and Amy say they took the choice to speak publicly now as a result of they didn’t need their family members to be outlined by their deaths. Additionally they really feel a lot of the preliminary reporting after the murders was inaccurate and it added to their ache.

They’ve additionally shared beforehand unseen household pictures with the BBC.

Kyle Clifford fatally stabbed 61-year-old Carol, raped his former accomplice, Louise, 25, then used a crossbow to shoot each her and her sister Hannah, 28 – all at their household residence in Bushey, Hertfordshire, in July final yr.

Amy says the minute Clifford left their residence on the day of the incident, “my mum, Hannah and Louise grew to become a statistic. They grew to become victims of Kyle Clifford.”

“I need to breathe life again into my mum, Hannah and Louise as fully-rounded individuals.”

Amy and John inform the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire additionally they strongly reject experiences there have been clear indicators of abuse by Clifford throughout his relationship with Louise.

“Did we have now any indication that this man was able to stabbing my mom, of tying Louise up, of raping Louise, of capturing Louise and capturing Hannah? Completely not,” says Amy.

The Hunt household have all the time been extraordinarily shut.

Within the early years of their marriage, Carol inspired John – then a police officer – to pursue his dream of changing into a racing commentator.

That endless perception was inherited by their three daughters – Amy, the eldest, their center daughter Hannah, and Louise, “the infant”. They talked on a regular basis and shared every thing with one another.

John, Carol, Hannah and Louise lived collectively of their residence in Bushey, Hertfordshire. Louise ran a dog-grooming enterprise from a pod within the backyard and Hannah labored in aesthetics and wonder.

Their life, John says, was “one in every of full happiness – awash with it, actually”.

They bear in mind one Friday evening final Might, two months earlier than the murders, when the three sisters had gone out for sushi collectively.

“We had been speaking about how fortunate we might been as a household, to have had the mother and father we have had and the life we have had,” Amy says.

John agrees, and provides that when Hannah got here residence from the dinner, she was “sometimes effusive”.

“She got here barnstorming by the door, and Carol mentioned one thing like, ‘you had a beautiful time?’ And he or she mentioned, ‘have you learnt what, mum? We talked about how fortunate we have now been. We’ve been so fortunate. We have not had a minute of concern or fear by the lives you have given us’,” he says.

“It is a good looking factor to recall. It was a good looking factor to listen to on the identical time.”

You may watch the complete interview, Standing Robust: The John and Amy Hunt interview, with Victoria Derbyshire at 21:00 BST on BBC1 and on iPlayer

Whereas issues had been idyllic with the household, Louise and Clifford’s relationship had began to bitter. On the finish of June, Louise broke up with him.

Lower than two weeks later, on 9 July, Clifford turned up on the household’s residence on the pretext of returning a few of Louise’s issues.

Doorbell footage captured the second Carol opened the door to Clifford, and greeted him with pleasant recommendation.

“Possibly… perhaps suppose within the subsequent relationship,” she informed him, “the best way you’re, perhaps try to change. Should you keep on like this you may find yourself by yourself.” Clifford agreed, seemingly cordial, and informed her he had began remedy.

Carol turned to enter the home, and Clifford adopted her inside.

He then stabbed her a number of instances, earlier than ready in the home for Louise to return again inside from her canine grooming pod. When she did, he restrained, raped, and killed her with a crossbow. When Hannah returned later, he shot her with the crossbow too.

In her dying moments, Hannah messaged her boyfriend, Alex, and managed to name 999. She was in a position to inform them what had occurred and, crucially, who was accountable. John was in central London on the time. He believes Clifford supposed to kill him too.

“Cops of 30 years’ expertise had their breath taken away by how courageous she was, how she was in a position to suppose so clearly in that second, to know what she wanted to do,” John says.

Requested if Hannah’s actions saved his life, John provides: “That is what I imagine.

“I mentioned it in courtroom and I mentioned many, many instances, her doing that has given me life. And I’ve used that to re-ground myself every day.”

Because the information of the murders unfold, the narrative spun uncontrolled.

John says “from day one” their household – and specifically, Louise – was “fully misrepresented within the media and on social media”, together with false strategies Louise was in a controlling and coercive relationship with Kyle Clifford.

He and Amy recall misinformation on information websites, together with the declare that John had been the one to find his spouse and daughters’ our bodies of their residence.

Additionally they bear in mind pictures being lifted from their family members’ social media pages by sections of the media with out consent, one thing John describes as “grave-robbing”.

Amy recollects one newspaper headline studying, “Crossbow maniac was jilted”, a framing she describes as “victim-blaming”.

However most painful, they are saying, had been claims within the press that there have been clear indicators of abuse and misogyny in Clifford’s relationship with Louise.

John and Amy say the household had misgivings about Clifford – there have been issues about him they did not very hot to. He was immature and, at instances, thoughtless. They are saying he could not cope with battle, and was dangerous at taking criticism. The household, together with Louise, would discuss to one another about Clifford’s lack of consideration.

However their relationship additionally appeared unremarkable, they are saying. The 2 of them would giggle and cuddle in the home, watch movies collectively, cook dinner collectively, go on holidays to Europe and take weekend journeys to the seaside.

They appeared glad, for a yr no less than – and even when issues began to deteriorate in 2024, for these on the skin, the change was refined.

A turning level got here when the couple went away for a pal’s marriage ceremony. The evening earlier than the ceremony, Louise struggled to make use of the oven of their lodging. The following day, when different marriage ceremony company requested Louise what she did for a residing, Clifford would interject with the barb that “one factor she would not do is know how one can work an oven correctly”.

Clifford began to belittle her. When wanting by the couple’s textual content messages after Louise’s demise – one thing John says he discovered “very tough to do” because the messages had been private to Louise – they seen indicators, from spring 2024, of “mild manipulation”.

However did they discover something on the time that urged the connection was abusive?

No, John says. Clifford by no means bodily assaulted Louise once they had been collectively. The household additionally by no means heard them increase their voices at one another.

“On the level of Louise ending [the relationship], there was completely proof that he had turned out to not be a pleasant individual,” Amy says.

“However I need to put it very bluntly now. Did we have now any indication that this man was able to stabbing my mom, of tying Louise up, of raping Louise, of capturing Louise and capturing Hannah? Completely not.

“He is typically been known as ‘crossbow killer’ and ‘crossbow maniac’ – however that takes away from the very actual difficulty we all know to be true. He was only a individual, only a man… who went to the gymnasium, had a household, had a relationship, watched TV.

“I do know it sounds crass, however we frequently say we want we might had some trace that he was able to this.”

Within the months that adopted the murders, John and Amy needed to navigate a fancy legal justice system.

John makes some extent of highlighting the “unimaginable individuals” who supported them – the law enforcement officials, their household liaison officers, their barrister, and the “compassionate” choose who oversaw the rape trial and sentenced Clifford. They had been, they are saying, “very fortunate to have met these individuals in these horrible circumstances”.

However, he provides, “every of them is working in a system that’s clearly not match for function”.

On the day Clifford appeared at magistrates’ courtroom after being charged, John and Amy’s household liaison officers weren’t in a position to attend the listening to with them as they had been at one other homicide in Luton.

“It simply so occurred that that morning within the magistrates’ courtroom, they revealed facets of the murders that we had not heard of in any respect, from anyone,” John says. “That was an terrible day.”

Amy then discovered the small print of her sister Hannah’s ultimate phrases on the cellphone to 999, from a newspaper headline.

After they spoke to the CPS about their issues, they got a criticism type and informed to return it inside 28 working days – “as if we might had our bike stolen”.

On one other day, when Clifford was resulting from enter his pleas, Amy says they had been informed the listening to wanted to be postponed as a result of the jail transport “did not flip as much as take him to courtroom”.

The proceedings had been lengthy and torturous for John and Amy. Clifford initially denied the costs towards him, earlier than pleading responsible to every thing besides the cost of rape. This meant the case needed to go to trial. He was convicted in March.

Clifford refused to attend his sentencing later that month, that means he didn’t hear the choose’s damning feedback about him, or the devastating testimonies written by John and Amy.

“It is constantly a system that prioritises the perpetrator,” Amy says. “That is a traumatising factor for therefore many individuals.”

The Crown Prosecution Service says it has apologised, and it has “the utmost admiration for the Hunt household, who had the power and braveness to attend courtroom each day and listen to first-hand the devastating fact of what occurred to Carol, Louise and Hannah.

“On the request of the choose throughout the first listening to of Kyle Clifford, we offered preliminary particulars of the prosecution’s case. We apologised to the Hunt household for the extent of element outlined at that stage and continued to fulfill with them all through the legal justice course of.”

Within the months because the sentencing, John and Amy say they have been making an attempt to concentrate on residing once more.

“When it occurred I assumed, ‘how on earth am I ever going to have the ability to care about something ever once more’?” John says.

“It is high quality to sit down with that thought within the wreckage of what was our private catastrophe. However you come to understand that, with a bit of bit of labor, you could find some gentle once more.”

He says they’ve discovered consolation in good counsellors and assist teams, mindfulness workout routines, and the love and assist they’ve for one another.

However above all, each day he remembers Hannah’s ultimate act, and the way it saved his life. “I get to stay,” he says. “Hannah gave me that, and I’ve bought to deal with it as a present from her.”

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